[Doug Kibbey]

From the context where I found it, it is apparently Vietnam in '57. Looks kinda' like a mini-Typhoon or something, or based on some Brit design. Anybody know what this is?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Ascout/DAD57.jpg

[DKTanker]

Doug Kibbey, on Sat 11 Apr 2009 1438, said:

From the context where I found it, it is apparently Vietnam in '57. Looks kinda' like a mini-Typhoon or something, or based on some Brit design. Anybody know what this is?

Looks like an SU 5

[Doug Kibbey]

DKTanker, on Sat 11 Apr 2009 1951, said:

Looks like an SU 5

Maybe, but most images I'm finding show SU-5 as four-bladed and with bigger intake, different nose.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/Sukhoi_Su-5.jpg


http://upload.wikime...Sukhoi_Su-5.jpg

http://www.sukhoi.or...nes/museum/su5/



http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/7896/su54645423xm5.jpg





...it looks more "YAK"ish, but none of these are a fit either...(lot's of interesting aircraft here, though)

http://rareaircraf1....con.us/USSR.htm

This post has been edited by Doug Kibbey: 11 April 2009 - 1518 PM

[DKTanker]

Doug Kibbey, on Sat 11 Apr 2009 1508, said:

Maybe, but most images I'm finding show SU-5 as four-bladed and with bigger intake, different nose.

I agree and on closer inspection it looks like it has a closely cowled radial or cowl as on the Fw190D. It isn't of course. It is also possible (probable?) that it is a turbo-prop.

[Doug Kibbey]

DKTanker, on Sat 11 Apr 2009 2019, said:

I agree and on closer inspection it looks like it has a closely cowled radial or cowl as on the Fw190D. It isn't of course. It is also possible (probable?) that it is a turbo-prop.

No idea. But looking at the SU-5 was educational for me...it's both convention reciprocating engine and jet powered, apparently. Never seen that type before either.

The lower intake cowl on the plane I posted question about looks like liquid cooling system housing, to my eyes. So I'm thinking reciprocating.

[eurico_viegas]

Was thinking Su-2 or Su-4, but it doesn't look like either one. Something French, maybe?

[Doug Kibbey]

eurico_viegas, on Sat 11 Apr 2009 2023, said:

Was thinking Su-2 or Su-4, but it doesn't look like either one. Something French, maybe?

Doesn't look like the SU-2's on the link to them I posted, but no 4 is featured. Thas' the whole mystery. Whutheheckisit? :D

[eurico_viegas]

Doug Kibbey, on Sat 11 Apr 2009 2125, said:

Doesn't look like the SU-2's on the link to them I posted, but no 4 is featured. Thas' the whole mystery. Whutheheckisit? :D

The same as a Su-2, but with another engine. Or so I've read. :)

[JOE BRENNAN]

It's a Morane Saulnier Vanneau trainer.

Joe

[Doug Kibbey]

JOE BRENNAN, on Sat 11 Apr 2009 2029, said:

It's a Morane Saulnier Vanneau trainer.

Joe

Ding! Ding! Ding!

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/0/5/2/0987250.jpg

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturej/af18.jpg

[Doug Kibbey]

While we're on this subject, two of the pics I stumbled across in my search took me here. Some great stuff I'd never seen before. Click sidebar for country...

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/

WARNING! Don't go here unless you've got some time on your hands....

[eurico_viegas]

And something more: MS.470

[eurico_viegas]

Doug Kibbey, on Sat 11 Apr 2009 2136, said:

While we're on this subject, two of the pics I stumbled across in my search took me here. Some great stuff I'd never seen before. Click sidebar for country...

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/

WARNING! Don't go here unless you've got some time on your hands....

Wow. Will have to make some free time now ;)


edit: The Flying Panzerfausts :lol:

This post has been edited by eurico_viegas: 11 April 2009 - 1542 PM

[DKTanker]

eurico_viegas, on Sat 11 Apr 2009 1540, said:

Wow. Will have to make some free time now ;)


edit: The Flying Panzerfausts :lol:

You think that odd, what about this? The USHAKOV LPL FLYING SUBMARINE PROJECT

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesk/aa22.jpg

[eurico_viegas]

DKTanker, on Sat 11 Apr 2009 2353, said:

You think that odd, what about this? The USHAKOV LPL FLYING SUBMARINE PROJECT

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesk/aa22.jpg

When did the Thunderbirds become inspiration for real technology, between this and the piloted A-4 rockets? (I know, its the other way around)

I don't know whats more amazing/unbelievable/stark raving mad: if German late WW2 projects if Soviet Cold War projects (thinking wing-in-ground effect things mainly, although those worked) :blink:
Oh, and Western non-Harrier VSTOL attempts also fit that mould, IMO. Even the VJ-101, a cool looking plane as it is, but completely absurd. All of this in hindsight of course. ;)

edit: forgot there is more than one flavor of A-4 :)

This post has been edited by eurico_viegas: 11 April 2009 - 2117 PM

[Doug Kibbey]

eurico_viegas, on Sun 12 Apr 2009 0204, said:

When did the Thunderbirds become inspiration for real technology, between this and the piloted A-4 rockets? (I know, its the other way around)

I don't know whats more amazing/unbelievable/stark raving mad: if German late WW2 projects if Soviet Cold War projects (thinking wing-in-ground effect things mainly, although those worked) :blink:
Oh, and Western non-Harrier VSTOL attempts also fit that mould, IMO. Even the VJ-101, a cool looking plane as it is, but completely absurd. All of this in hindsight of course. ;)

Well, it's not like the West couldn't get weird. Some Brit concepts...(haven't brought myself to look at U.S. stuff yet...)

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesm/ae69.jpg

http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesk/ae20.jpg

[Luke Y]

Damn, here I was expecting some new engine variant of the Fairey Fulmar... :(

[Colin]

The B-15 looks like a Mosquito on steroids!!

http://rareaircraf1....ED%20STATES.htm

[JWB]

Doug Kibbey, on Sat 11 Apr 2009 2022, said:

No idea. But looking at the SU-5 was educational for me...it's both convention reciprocating engine and jet powered, apparently. Never seen that type before either.

The lower intake cowl on the plane I posted question about looks like liquid cooling system housing, to my eyes. So I'm thinking reciprocating.

Composite propulsion wasn't just for the Russkies.>


http://en.wikipedia....iki/FR_Fireball

[Chris Werb]

JOE BRENNAN, on Sat 11 Apr 2009 2129, said:

It's a Morane Saulnier Vanneau trainer.

Joe

Don't you ever get tired of being right all the time Joe? :)

This post has been edited by Chris Werb: 12 April 2009 - 0729 AM