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Boeing unveils new F-15 "Silent Eagle" variant

#1 User is offline   Dawes 

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 1359 PM

This airframe is like Jason - It just won't die :P From AW&ST:





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Boeing Unveils New, Stealthy Silent Eagle F-15


AWIN First Mar 17 , 2009
Amy Butler abutler@aviationweek.com
St. Louis, Mo.




Boeing unveiled the prototype of a new variant of the F-15 Strike Eagle aimed at the Asian and Middle East markets that will incorporate stealthy coatings and structure here on Mar. 17.

Company officials hope the new aircraft will garner up to 190 orders, extending the F-15 line beyond the current backlog of 38 aircraft for South Korea and Singapore. Since the company lost the Joint Strike Fighter contest to Lockheed Martin, the future of its St. Louis manufacturing facility has been uncertain. Continued F-15 sales, as well as additional orders for F/A-18E/Fs and EA-18Gs, are the only work in the foreseeable future for the plant.

Major design changes in the new “Silent Eagle” version include internal bays within the existing conformal fuel tanks that can carry a variety of air-to-air and air-to-ground weapons. Each tank will be configured to hold two air-to-air missiles, including the AIM-9 and AIM-120 or a combination of the two.For the air-to-ground mission, 1,000- and 500-pound Joint Direct Attack Munitions can be carried or four 250-pound Small Diameter Bombs per tank. Weapons loadout can also be split between the AIM-120 and JDAM for a multirole mission.The Silent Eagle configuration includes 15-degree outward-canted V-tails - a shift away from the characteristic vertical fins of the F-15 that reduces the radar cross-section.

The Mach 2.5 speed of the Strike Eagle is maintained, but the cost is about 180-200 nautical miles of range capability because of the reduce fuel in the conformal tanks, says Brad Jones, program manger for F-15 future programs.


The new design includes a digital electronic warfare system (DEWS), made by BAE Systems, that can operate simultaneously with the aircraft’s Raytheon active electronically scanned array radar.

Stealth coatings, though not yet applied to Boeing’s prototype, could be added at a later time. Boeing says the coatings could contibute to an equivalent amount of front-aspect stealth as that offered by Lockheed’s F-35. This includes reducing radar returns from sharp edges on the aircraft, including antennae.

Stealthiness for the F-15 was explored about a decade ago for the U.S. Air Force as an alternative to the Lockheed-led F-22, but was never pursued. “The internal carriage is what is new. The stealth is not,” Jones says, adding “We are not really after the F-22 market or the F-35 market” with this new design.

The level of stealthiness exportable on the F-15 is up to the U.S. government to decide, Jones says. Though USAF officials have been given courtesy briefings on the Silent Eagle, talks on stealth exportability have not yet occurred.

A radar blocker for engine inlets, already fitted in F/A-18E/Fs, could be added depending on how much radar cross-section reduction is required by the customer and allowed by the government.

Jones estimates the cost of a Silent Eagle will be about $100 million per aircraft, including spares, if built new. A retrofit kit including the conformal fuel tanks, DEWS and coatings could be added to existing Strike Eagles, he says.

The target market includes South Korea, Singapore, Japan, Israel and Saudi Arabia, Jones says. The first likely customer is South Korea, which is looking for two new fighters, including its F-X Phase III program, which calls for 60 aircraft in the F-15 class.

South Korea’s Agency for Defense Development is also pushing for a KFX program, which calls for about 120 domestically developed stealth fighters. Jones says coproduction of stealth materials would be subject to U.S. government review and a tough case to sell.

Japan and Saudi Arabia are also looking for new F-15-class fighters. And if the Silent Eagle were sold to the Saudis, Israel likely would want a chance to buy the aircraft too to maintain balance of power in the Middle East.

Boeing’s willingness to integrate indigenous systems, such as electronic warfare suites, onto the Silent Eagle is an option that could be of interest to these customers – especially Israel. Israeli industry was recently rebuffed by U.S. officials unwilling to add foreign EW systems under the F-35 development program.

The weapons-carrying fuel tanks, which are affixed to the aircraft with two bolts, and can be removed within about 2.5 hours. Reinstalling the original fuel tanks restores the F-15 to its nonstealthy configuration, which is capable of hauling more and larger weapons, including anti-ship missiles.

The Silent Eagle prototype is based on F-15E1, the program’s flight test aircraft. To date, it has been outfitted with the conformal tanks and the canted tails, which are for demonstration only and not structurally integrated. The actual canted tails would be added later if a customer requested them. Stealth coatings and engine intake blockers have not been added.

Jones says Boeing hopes to begin flight testing the weapons-carrying conformal tanks on the aircraft in the first quarter of next year. Design work on the Silent Eagle concept began in September last year in response to feedback from F-15 customers, he says.


Pictures here:

http://www.boeing.co...090317a_nr.html

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#2 User is offline   DesertFox 

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 1420 PM

The F-15, the plane that won't die :P
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 1431 PM

Interesting. Could find a role with the USAF as a replacement for legacy F-15 (A-D) in the reserves and ANG. Especially if F-22 production ends.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 1449 PM

Is it four, or eight AIM-120s that Silent Eagle can carry in stealth configuration?
Another question is - whether existing F-15s can be modernized in that way?

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 1513 PM

View Postm4a1, on Tue 17 Mar 2009 2149, said:

Is it four, or eight AIM-120s that Silent Eagle can carry in stealth configuration?


"Each tank will be configured to hold two air-to-air missiles, including the AIM-9 and AIM-120 or a combination of the two"

To me it sounds that max is two Amraams per tank.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 1718 PM

View Postpdoktar, on Tue 17 Mar 2009 2113, said:

"Each tank will be configured to hold two air-to-air missiles, including the AIM-9 and AIM-120 or a combination of the two"

To me it sounds that max is two Amraams per tank.

Are there two tanks? Forgive my ignorance, I've seen the picture and read the text, just want to check.

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 1751 PM

yep, one on each side.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 1923 PM

Interesting indeed. I wonder, can those new CFTs be bought and installed on existing F-15s to reduce their signature? Granted, current F-15s with the new CFTs may not be as stealthy as the SE, but at least it will reduce their RCS, yes? I'm thinking of all those countries that recently bought new and improved F-15Es (e.g., SoKor, SA, Japan [?], Israel [?]). Probably saying "WTF?!? A new one already?!? Dammit!" :D
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 2043 PM

View Postseahawk, on Tue 17 Mar 2009 1531, said:

Interesting. Could find a role with the USAF as a replacement for legacy F-15 (A-D) in the reserves and ANG. Especially if F-22 production ends.

Last month I was working on a project proposal for our company with a recently retired USAF pilot with nineteen years in the service flying F-15s and the F-117. I inquired as to his viewpoints on continuing F-15 production in conjunction with, or in lieu of, the F-22. His strongly stated opinion was that F-22 production should get absolute priority since the F-22 is the only aircraft we have in our hands right now, or in the pipeline, which clearly could maintain its competitive edge over the next several decades.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 2232 PM

"Silent Eagle" Uhh.. let me guess, its one those tired hulls from ANG stock, but minus the engine? :P
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 2245 PM

View PostLeoTanker, on Wed 18 Mar 2009 0332, said:

"Silent Eagle" Uhh.. let me guess, its one those tired hulls from ANG stock, but minus the engine? :P


This ain't the Russian Mig-29 contract to Algeria ya know.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 2252 PM

View PostTomasCTT, on Wed 18 Mar 2009 0953, said:

Interesting indeed. I wonder, can those new CFTs be bought and installed on existing F-15s to reduce their signature?


according to the article :

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Jones estimates the cost of a Silent Eagle will be about $100 million per aircraft, including spares, if built new. A retrofit kit including the conformal fuel tanks, DEWS and coatings could be added to existing Strike Eagles, he says.


Looking at the pictures, looks like they've angled out the tail-fin's more are well.

Gotta say, given the design with the intakes etc, how much of an RCS reduction is likely?

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 2310 PM

oops. I didn't see the retrofit kit part. Man, I think it's reading-impaired day for me today! Must be all that residual rage the past few days.... :lol:
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 0207 AM

View PostScottBrim, on Wed 18 Mar 2009 0243, said:

Last month I was working on a project proposal for our company with a recently retired USAF pilot with nineteen years in the service flying F-15s and the F-117. I inquired as to his viewpoints on continuing F-15 production in conjunction with, or in lieu of, the F-22. His strongly stated opinion was that F-22 production should get absolute priority since the F-22 is the only aircraft we have in our hands right now, or in the pipeline, which clearly could maintain its competitive edge over the next several decades.


If politics would not play such a big part in weapons programs, I would fully agree with you.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 0255 AM

I want my wing pylons back please....... :angry:
The nerve of them....turning a beautiful bomb truck into a past-it-prime air superiority fighter......
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 0828 AM

"Silent Eagle", it sounds like an advanced way of breaking wind.....and don`t get me started on the "Growler"... :lol:
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 1238 PM

View PostBrasidas, on Wed 18 Mar 2009 0345, said:

This ain't the Russian Mig-29 contract to Algeria ya know.


Ouch! You hurt his boyfriends' game.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 1252 PM

It sounds like a wet dream from the imagination of Dale Brown. In actual fact I think he predicted it, in 'Day of the Cheetah'.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 1311 PM

Might supercruise in such a clean configuration but I wonder what the utility is.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 1332 PM

Seems to be just a jazzed-up, semi-stealthy Strike Eagle.
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