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Good bye red stars? Russian government is thinking about changing the insignia

#1 User is offline   yak_v 

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Posted 13 March 2008 - 1313 PM

There are rumors circulating the Russian forums that the Russian government is getting ready to change the red stars to the tricolor stars with the colors of the Russian flag that will look like this:
http://www.postimage.org/aV18e9e0-1cef95d069bc85f45ff7acc114e2d538.jpg

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#2 User is offline   Xavier 

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Posted 13 March 2008 - 1336 PM

View Postyak_v, on Thu 13 Mar 2008 1913, said:

There are rumors circulating the Russian forums that the Russian government is getting ready to change the red stars to the tricolor stars with the colors of the Russian flag that will look like this:
http://www.postimage.org/aV18e9e0-1cef95d069bc85f45ff7acc114e2d538.jpg

Vladimir

The image doesn't show, the link OTOH, does: linkie
not exactly the most esthetically pleasing design I must say, OTOH I do wonder why Russia stuck with the communist red star for so long?
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 1347 PM

View PostXavier, on Thu 13 Mar 2008 1836, said:

The image doesn't show, the link OTOH, does: linkie
not exactly the most esthetically pleasing design I must say, OTOH I do wonder why Russia stuck with the communist red star for so long?


No money for the paint, maybe? :unsure:
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 1417 PM

I liked the Red Star, but the new one isn't bad either.
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 1425 PM

The Red Star is more distinctive in my opinion..of course all US insignias have become just a different shade of grey.....
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 1517 PM

Why don't they just go with WWI roundel?

http://wio.ru/ww1a/gal/s16.jpg
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 1522 PM

View PostXavier, on Thu 13 Mar 2008 1636, said:

not exactly the most esthetically pleasing design I must say

Uuuugly.

View PostXavier, on Thu 13 Mar 2008 1636, said:

I do wonder why Russia stuck with the communist red star for so long?

The Red Star as a plane insignia predated the USSR. It was used as a personal insignia in WWI in tsarist russia. During the civil war stars of different colors and shapes were used by both sides. So, in a way, the red star marking is as old as russian warplanes.
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 1706 PM

Just wait until we get around to return to our old insignia:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Finland_roundel_WW2_border.svg/120px-Finland_roundel_WW2_border.svg.png

:)
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 1754 PM

View PostYama, on Fri 14 Mar 2008 0006, said:

Just wait until we get around to return to our old insignia:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Finland_roundel_WW2_border.svg/120px-Finland_roundel_WW2_border.svg.png

:)


"What, why there are german swastikas in that tank?" :angry:

Last summer I had to explain like 50 times that no the tank is not a german tank and no, we were not nazis.
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 1829 PM

Well, there's always Belarus.
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 1930 PM

This decision is stupid. Red stars are the symbol of WW2 Victory and soviet military might during cold war. Russia has not much own post-soviet achievements, the country is still living mostly from soviet heritage so it should at least maintain it's symbols. Czaraist symbols which are now spreading everywhere aren't a solution, czar's regime was even worse.
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 1938 PM

It looks psychedelic. :huh:
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 2056 PM

View PostYama, on Thu 13 Mar 2008 2306, said:

Just wait until we get around to return to our old insignia:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Finland_roundel_WW2_border.svg/120px-Finland_roundel_WW2_border.svg.png

:)

at least it is a beautiful symbol, one more reason to hate the Nazis, both the swastika, the stechschritt, the Stahlhelm and the Roman salute, all beautiful except for the fact that everyone associates them with those disgusting animals :angry:
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Posted 14 March 2008 - 0244 AM

View PostTomasCTT, on Fri 14 Mar 2008 0038, said:

It looks psychedelic. :huh:


And slightly gay. :)
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Posted 14 March 2008 - 1021 AM

View PostChris Werb, on Fri 14 Mar 2008 0744, said:

And slightly gay. :)

Yup, just the kind of thing you'd expect to feature in a Scissor Sisters video... ;) :)

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 1030 AM

Here is a handy sight to reference who uses what symbol:

Roundels Of The World

http://cocardes.mond...en/accueil.html

This post has been edited by Bob B: 14 March 2008 - 1032 AM

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Posted 14 March 2008 - 1635 PM

View PostChris Werb, on Fri 14 Mar 2008 0244, said:

And slightly gay. :)


Agreed. The good ol´communist (ok, Tzarist) star is mouch more brutal and better looking. Lets hope they either keep it or come up with something waaay better than this..
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 1312 PM

I liked the hammer & sickle symbol much better for some reason.

Anyone know the background & history attached to that one?
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 1343 PM

View PostGavin-Phillips, on Sun 16 Mar 2008 1612, said:

I liked the hammer & sickle symbol much better for some reason.
Anyone know the background & history attached to that one?

That's no military marking. It was a russian communist symbol, representing the union of workers and peasant (there were other variations, with cogs instead hammers, plowshares instead of sickles, etc.). Later it made it's way into Soviet flag and coat of arms (with the first Soviet constitution, in the mid 20s).
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Posted 16 March 2008 - 1358 PM

That tricolor star is fugly. Keep the red one, after all there's still Soyuz nierushimyi as national anthem so what? ;)
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